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2019-04-28 19:15:35

 
做Liposomal vitamin C需要的东西(用于治疗冠心病) [引用]

1. Vitamin C

第一次看到这个。Organic,Non GMO正是我要找的。

https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Organic-Ingredients-Eco-Friendly-Antioxidant/dp/B07663FG95/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=vitamin%2BC%2Bcrystals&qid=1556503330&s=gateway&sr=8-5&th=1

我过去一般都是买的这个。

https://www.amazon.com/Foods-Vitamin-Crystals-Ascorbic-Pound/dp/B0013OUMVO/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=vitamin+C+crystals&qid=1556503466&s=gateway&sr=8-3

2. Lecithin 一定要非转的。

https://www.amazon.com/Lecithin-Granules-NON-GMO-Foods-Granule/dp/B000VN0S4O/ref=sr_1_5?crid=8W27IFAJ0O32&keywords=lethicin%2Bpowder&qid=1556503535&s=gateway&sprefix=Lethi%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-5&th=1

3. 超声波振荡器

https://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Wave-Professional-Ultrasonic-Cleaner/dp/B002A8IDQI/ref=sr_1_8?crid=2RDK6CDNWV0VK&keywords=super+sonic+cleaner&qid=1556503658&s=gateway&sprefix=super+sonic+clearner%2Caps%2C200&sr=8-8

我有这个后来又买了这个

https://www.amazon.com/iSonic-Commercial-Ultrasonic-Variations-Accessories/dp/B00HLBKNLW/ref=sr_1_7?crid=2RDK6CDNWV0VK&keywords=super+sonic+cleaner&qid=1556503739&s=gateway&sprefix=super+sonic+clearner%2Caps%2C200&sr=8-7

4.  赖氨酸

https://www.amazon.com/NOW-Foods-733739002402-L-Lysine-1-Pound/dp/B0013OSNOM/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Lysine+powder&qid=1556503862&s=gateway&sr=8-3

有片剂。我看还是粉剂好。一勺冲水喝

5,最好有magic bullet。 就是小的blender这个加水和卵磷脂打一下。很快就变成溶剂。不然要等很久卵磷脂才能变软。

你们买了后,看那个录像,再问我。做一两次就知道了。不难。没次感冒马上喝。一次2大口。过5,6分钟就喝一次。很快就能好。好好看那个Dr. Tom Levy的录像。

 

 

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2019-04-28 19:18:39

 
发表于: 2019-04-28 19:18:39 [引用]

谢谢

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2019-04-28 19:20:35

 
发表于: 2019-04-28 19:20:35 [引用]

https://jeffreydachmd.com/heart-disease-vitamin-c-and-linus-pauling2/

Vitamin C Deficiency Has  Major Impact on Collagen Production

Vitamin C is required to make a protein called collagen which is the major component of connective tissues.  The lack of Vitamin C is a deficiency disease called Scurvy.

Why is Collagen Important ?

Collagen is the most abundant protein in the body.  It is the  structural protein used to make connective tissues, bones, teeth, hair, and arteries.  Strong collagen is important for a strong body.

Above Left image: “Unraveling Collagen“, Stainless Steel, height: 11 feet Julian Voss-Andreae, Orange Memorial Park Sculpture Garden, City of South San Francisco, CA. 5/10/2006. Courtesy of Wikimedia Commons 

Vitamin C Deficiency Results in Absent Lysine Crosslinking on Collagen

Vitamin C is required for strong collagen.  How does this work? Vitamin C is required for lysyl hydroxylase, an enzyme responsible for attaching the lysine residues together on adjacent collagen strands. (see diagram below) Vitamin C deficiency results in weakened collagen strands caused by disrupted lysine crosslinking. The resulting weakened collagen results in a widespread problems in the connective tissues, bones, teeth, skin, hair, arteries, etc.

Steps in Collagen Synthesis (see diagram below Courtesy of Wikimedia)

Collagen_Fibril

 

 

How are the fibrils crosslinked?  This is done with Lysine residues (see below diagram)

 

Fibril Cross Linking with Lysine and Lysyl Oxydase (see diagram below):

 

Lysine_CrosslinkLeft Above image courtesy of wikimedia commons  lysyl oxidase.

Above image shows three steps in attachment of two fibrils (collagen strands) by combining two lysine molecules with the help of an enzyme lysine hydroxylase which requires vitamin C.

 

Full Blown Scurvy – Collagen Falls Apart

In the full blown Vitamin C deficiency disease called Scurvy, the structural elements of the body literally fall apart.  Collagen is broken down and not replaced. The joints wear out, the small arteries begin to crack and degenerate, the skin shows easy bruising and bleeding as small vessels rupture throughout the body, and the teeth may loosen and fall out.

Linus Pauling: Heart Disease is a Chronic Scurvy Condition

Linus_Pauling_NIH1Linus Pauling was unquestionably the greatest scientist of the twentieth century. All of modern biochemistry and molecular biology chemistry is based on Linus Pauling’s work, especially his discovery and elucidation of the chemical bond.  Pauling is the only scientist to be awarded two unshared Nobel prizes.

Pauling’s later years were devoted to heart disease, and in 1989 he published “A Unified Theory of Human Cardiovascular Disease,”  in which he states that atherosclerotic plaques in heart disease are actually part of a repair process, to repair the arterial damage caused by chronic vitamin C deficiency.

Left Image: Linus Pauling Courtesy of Wikimedia

In essence, Pauling said that heart disease is a manifestation of chronic scurvy, and atherosclerotic plaque is a mechanism evolved to repair or patch blood vessels and arteries damaged by chronic vitamin C deficiency.  Linus Pauling also said that atherosclerotic plaque formation can be prevented or reversed with vitamin C, lysine and proline.  These are nutritional supplements available at any health food store for a few dollars.

Atherosclerotic Plaques Contain LipoProtein (a)

Plaque deposits found in human aortas are made up of a form of cholesterol called lipoprotein (a) also called Lp(a).

Atherosclerotic Plaques Are Found at Maximal Mechanical Stress

Atherosclerotic plaques are not found randomly distributed throughout the arterial tree, rather distribution is restricted to sites of high mechanical stress such as bifurcations, and areas of motion such as the surface of the heart (coronary arteries). In the early 1950’s, a Canadian, G. C. Willis, MD, made these same observations, and they have been confirmed by 60 years of coronary and peripheral arteriography at major medical centers.

Exposed Lysine Crosslinks from Damaged Collagen is Site of LipoProtein (a) attachment and Plaque Formation

L_LysineImagine stepping on your garden hose a thousand times a day.  You will soon notice cracks in the wall of the garden hose.  This is the same process that happens in the artery.  As these  cracks open up, the collagen strands in the wall of the artery are teased apart.  The triple helix collagen strands are normally bound together with lysine crosslinks which are now teased apart and exposed to the circulating blood stream.

left Image: Lysine courtesy of WIkimedia

The Lysine residues look like little flags waving from the damaged collagen strand.  The exposed Lysine strands are available for binding to circulating Lipoprotein (a), a special form of cholesterol that has lysine receptors, and is known to increase heart disease risk.  This attachment of lipoprotein(a) to the free lysine residues of damaged collagen initiates the atherosclerotic process.  Over time, this process builds larger plaque deposits which eventually narrow the inner diameter of the artery causing a blockage, or leads to plaque rupture and thrombosis, a catastrophic event which may cause heart attack or sudden death.

Animal experiments in genetically modified mice which have “knocked out” the lysine binding sites on lipoprotein (a) show a fivefold reduction in atherosclerotic plaque formation.

Can You Make Vitamin C ? No You Can’t

Ascorbic_acid_Vitamin_CWe humans cannot make vitamin C in our liver as all other animals do.  We humans had a genetic mutation in our ancestry 50 million years ago which “knocked out” the final enzyme in the hepatic synthesis of vitamin C.  The missing enzyme is called GLO (gulano lactone oxidase).  Primates such as gorillas, chimpanzees and orangutans also share this same GLO mutation and cannot make vitamin C.  In adddition all primates share with humans susceptibility to heart disease.

Above Image Vitamin C, a simple ring structure simikar to glucose, Ascorbate Courtesy of Wikimedia

All Animals Can Make Vitamin C, but the Guinea Pig Can’t

Except for humans and primates, all other animals have the three enzymes in the liver which can synthesize vitamin C from glucose (a simple sugar). One major exception is the guinea pig, which is really a rodent and not a pig,  The guinea pig, for some unexplained reason, shares with humans the identical GLO genetic mutation and also lacks the GLO enzyme just like we do.  This makes the guinea pig an ideal experimental model for human diseases.  By the way, although animals that make vitamin C never get heart disease, the guinea pig which lacks the ability to synthesize vitamin C, also gets heart disease.

Animals That Make Vitamin C,  Don’t Get Atherosclerotic Heart Disease

I though this was worth repeating.

(note: here I am referring to atherosclerotic vascular heart disease in animals.  Dogs and Cats DO succumb to other common types of heart disease such as cardiomyopathy and heart worm etc.)

Animals That Don’t Make Vitamin C, Do Get Atherosclerotic Heart Disease

This should be starting to become clear now.

Animal Scientific Support for the Pauling Unified Theory

Cavia_porcellus_Guinea_Pig_Lacks_Vitamin_C_ascorbateAs mentioned above, guinea pigs are especially well suited to study atherosclerosis because guinea pigs are unable to make their own vitamin C, and in addition, they develop atherosclerotic plaques similar to those found in humans.

Left Image Guinea Pig Courtesy of Wikimedia

G. C. Willis, a Canadian doctor, conducted research with guinea pigs in the 1950’s showing that guinea pigs deprived of dietary vitamin C developed atherosclerotic plaques, while guinea pigs given plentiful vitamin C were protected. In addition,guinea pigs fed a vitamin C deficient diet had elevated Lipoprotein (a) levels along with the increased atherosclerotic plaque formation in the arteries.(link)(link)

Similar findings were demonstrated in genetically engineered mice lacking the GLO enzyme. The GLO deficient mice fed a vitamin C deficient diet developed atherosclerotic plaques in the aorta with characteristic deranged collagen crosslinking. GLO deficient mice fed vitamin C were protected. (link)

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2019-04-28 19:23:20

 
发表于: 2019-04-28 19:23:20 [引用]
  • Vitamin C is required to strengthen arteries so that the body does not try to patch arteries with "plaster casts" (atherosclerosis). 
     
  • Lysine is an Lp(a) binding inhibitor, meaning at sufficient dosage it can reverse the plaster cast build-up (atherosclerotic plaques.) Lp(a) is the sticky form of LDL cholesterol that Pauling/Rath identified as the primary risk factor.

http://www.paulingtherapy.com/

其实现在的医生才开始知道了。这就是为啥我根本不去看医生的愿意。they have no clue。

 

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2019-04-28 19:25:07

 
发表于: 2019-04-28 19:25:07 [引用]

仙人,你做的liposomal vc 里又加了lysine吗?video里都是只有vc+lecithin. 这款ultrasonic cleaner 噪音大吗?

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2019-04-28 19:25:15

 
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2019-04-28 19:49:52

 
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Thanks for all the information. Are both sunflower and soy bean lecithin ok as long as they are non gmo? Do you make vc+lecithin and vc+lysine separately or put them all together?

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2019-04-28 19:58:23

 
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yanzi3说:

仙人,你做的liposomal vc 里又加了lysine吗?video里都是只有vc+lecithin. 这款ultrasonic cleaner 噪音大吗?


 不加,赖氨酸直接冲水喝。

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2019-04-28 19:59:28

 
发表于: 2019-04-28 19:59:28 [引用]

yanzi3说:

Thanks for all the information. Are both sunflower and soy bean lecithin ok as long as they are non gmo? Do you make vc+lecithin and vc+lysine separately or put them all together?


是的。

那东西有一点噪音,但就5,6分钟,也不是太吵。不应该是个问题。

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2019-04-28 20:14:53

 
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仙人,lysine是有心脏病的才喝,还是健康的人也可以喝?谢谢。

I found this in webmd

https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-237/lysine

这个说的意思不能长期使用。

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2019-04-28 20:18:57

 
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赖氨酸食物里有。如果吃肉多的人。建议时不时喝一点。但要先喝维C。

或者感觉胸闷的时候都喝一下。

肝不舒服的时候多喝维C

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2019-04-29 13:53:49

 
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yanzi3说:

仙人,lysine是有心脏病的才喝,还是健康的人也可以喝?谢谢。

I found this in webmd

https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-237/lysine

这个说的意思不能长期使用。


赖氨酸的作用是吧堵塞的血管疏通。不需要常喝的。有问题的时候和2星期。平时偶尔喝一次2次。

维生素C感冒的时候。不舒服的时候都可以喝。很多病都可以喝。

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2019-04-29 14:59:01

 
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谢仙人!这个贴子要好好保存下来

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2019-04-29 15:09:28

 
发表于: 2019-04-29 15:09:28 [引用]

仙人,liposomal vc 1-2g 可以经常喝吗?我看了2-3 paper说这个量是安全的。谢谢你的耐心回答。

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2019-04-29 19:27:40

 
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yanzi3说:

仙人,liposomal vc 1-2g 可以经常喝吗?我看了2-3 paper说这个量是安全的。谢谢你的耐心回答。


1可以多喝。我过去看的东西说vc没有任何副作用。只要你身体能吸收。特别是在病的时候。越大量越好。。因为维C杀virus。你身体内的维C每半小时减半。

卵磷脂的问题是喝了很多后肠胃会很滑。想抹了润滑剂一样。

最近听到有个人说维c能消耗身体里的铜。还没找到相关资料。

总之,在你不舒服的时候,怎么喝lyposomal VC都可以。我一般每6-10分钟喝2,3大口,喝1-2小时.不要直接用粉冲水。那样喝会拉肚子。而且身体吸收不了。

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