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2019-05-12 12:29:50

 
64以及薄煦来事件的阴谋论 《五》 [引用]

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很明显,邓小平很早就知道是谁在背后策划,指挥64。下面这篇文章也很清楚的解释了美国bush政府在64中起到的作用。

看这些东西要很明白一点。世界上任何政府的大变得,革命,你基本上都能看到中情局矫健的身影。就像现在的委内瑞拉一样。他们总是用很好的借口。什么民主啊,什么独裁者啊等等。南美人早就非常清楚他们的手段了。因为中情局在那里干了太多事。老百姓早就不信这些东西里。看看委内瑞拉吧。那么糟。老百姓根本就不参与了。知道是美国人在背后搞。

http://groups.wenxuecity.com/groups/bbs.php?act=bbsview&gid=3029&basecode=972261

A brief summary of CIABASE traces reveal

China, 80-95 interview with fang lizhi. china's most prominent and vocal advocate of democracy. more than any other individual, fang lizhi sparked, stoked and gave voice to the popular yearning for democracy in china. deng xiaping said he was one of black hands behind the massive demonstrations of 89 (tiananmen square). after the demonstrations of 6/4/89, fang and his wife, were at the top of china's most wanted list and were sheltered in the u.s. embassy where they remained for a year. the chinese gvt allowed them to leave. in early 91 fang became a visiting fellow at the institute for advanced study in princeton. in 92, fang became a tenured professor at the university of arizona in tucson where he champions human rights worldwide, especially in china. fang is a member of human rights in china and is the vice president of the Chinese committee to end the Chinese gulag (laogai?), Which is part of Asia watch. Fang interview by marlowe hood. Bulletin of Concerned Asian scholars 5/95 21

China, 89 China accuses people in the u.s., england and hong kong for Conspiring in the pro-democracy demonstrations. Those elements offered more Than $1 million, including bounties to those barricading roads, destroying Military vehicles and killing soldiers. China accused especially bao tong, Head of a liberal think tank, fang lizhi and the the stone corporation, a Private high-tech firm that donated tens of thousands of dollars in Materials to the demonstrators. Wp 7/7/89 a19,24. The beijing stone Computer company singled out for criticism. Washington post 7/6/89 a19

China, 89 The u.s. Embassy is still home for chinese dissidents fang Lizhi and li shuxian. Fang has played a curious role in the democratic Sentiment. Chinese security officials barred him from attending pres bush's Banquet in 2/89. Washington post 8/4/89 a25,27

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大逃亡美国人在后面那么卖命地救这些人是为什么

张伯笠的逃亡者大家可以看看。为啥有些人跑的那么快。有些人被拉在后面?

显然他们知道那些人必须救。这也说他们在中国,香港有多少内线。这些人根本就不是为中国的民主献身。也许他们都不知道bush这些恶魔究竟是怎么回事。但他们做的其实是帮助美国的DS破坏中国。最可恨的是很多DS的人的家族都是在鸦片战争中发大财起家的人的家族。

有关方励之被救的东西,我下次再写。

China, 89-90 Op yellow bird—unofficial name for clandestine rescue from China of most important pro-democracy leaders. For 6 months after june Crackdown, cia's most valued agents in china, hong kong, and macao provided A safe haven and means of escape. Wuer kaixi and li lu disappeared, later Other leading dissidents wan runnan and yan jiaqi, made it to west. During Last week in may, u.s. Ambassador lilley handed out more than 200 visas to Intellectuals, scientists, and students and on several occasions lent money To escapees. In absence of credible cia leadership in china, lilley was Once again cia's beijing cos. Chinese astrophysicist, feng lizhi, went to Embassy for safe haven. It evident pro-democracy leaders could not have Made their way to west without tacit assistance of chinese security Officials. A number of western intel agencies helped—such as french, British. Perry, m. (1992). Eclipse: the last days of the cia 247-8

China, 89 President bush ordered a covert action that rescued Pro-democracy leaders in china. Cia coordinated underground railroad that Smuggled perhaps hundreds to hong kong in operation yellow bird that Involved use of cia-supplied disguises, scrambler telephones, night-vision Gunsights, infra-red signalers, speedboats and weapons for off-shore ops. For 6 month period following crackdown, a network of dozens of cia's most Valued agents in china, hong kong and macao provided a safe haven and means Of escape for most important organizers. Bush's finding endorsed a program Already underway. Info from book by mark perry, eclipse: the last days of The cia. washington times 9/17/92 a6

China, 96 Op yellowbird, daring plot to help dissidents escape. Over past Seven years 500 chinese dissidents rescued including wuer kaixi. Op an Alliance of human-rights advocates, western diplomats, businessmen, Professional smugglers, and kings of hong kong's underworld. More than 80 Mainland dissidents are still stuck in hong kong, waiting for asylum Somewhere. Some have been there for years. Op yellowbird born night of Beijing massacre. Within hours 40 pro-democracy activists united to form Yellowbird. They collected money from the business community and conspired With mob bosses and smugglers. On at least five occasions extraction teams Sent into china to find and rescue top dissidents they had scrambler Devices, night-vision goggles, infrared signalers, even make-up artists. Some saw hand of cia but these accusations denied. Worked with cooperative Local officials. In aftermath of 89 the u.s. And france threw open their Doors for escaping students. The group that takes care of new arrivals is, The alliance in support of the patriotic democratic movement in china. Wuer Kaixi is now a student in california, he plans to help coordinate protests In hong kong. Newsweek 4/1/96 45

有关达赖和中情局的事。这篇文章里有提到。你们自己看。我就不多说了。

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2019-05-12 12:31:45

 
发表于: 2019-05-12 12:31:45 [引用]

沙发!连出两集鼓掌

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2019-05-12 14:07:48

 
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原来是这样的,邓小平就是拯救中国的人?

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2019-05-12 14:27:36

 
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马未都说过:”历史没有真相,只残存一个道理。“

留给我们的只是通过各种表象和结果去回推当时发生的事情了。

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2019-05-12 15:13:55

 
发表于: 2019-05-12 15:13:55 [引用]

邓的改革开放至少扭转了中国的方向,不然,我们现在可能还和朝鲜一样。

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2019-05-12 15:20:46

 
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pumpkin001说:

邓的改革开放至少扭转了中国的方向,不然,我们现在可能还和朝鲜一样。


赞同,CIA和Bush就是要让中国保持贫穷落后无知的北韩状态吧。

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2019-05-12 15:25:18

 
发表于: 2019-05-12 15:25:18 [引用]

David Rockefeller, China, Free Trade, the WTO and the New World Order

Introduction

I’ve been watching the latest news and frankly it all seems like a bunch of noise to me which is why I haven’t been commenting on it recently. Unlike others out there, I find no pleasure in constantly repeating myself.

If you think that the way the world works is that history is just a series of random events blown in this direction or that by random winds, then this is certainly not a post that you will be interested in.

So what is the alternative? That history is not an accident – a series of unfortunate events – but that instead it is guided by those in power. Now I don’t claim that even the most powerful people on the planet can control every minute detail of our lives. Of course not.

What I’m saying is that just like the captain of a ship sets his sails and rudder to arrive at his destination despite the shifting winds and currents, so the powerful elite guide historical events to reach their goals.

The MSM has labelled this type of talk “conspiracy theory”. Yeah, like they have any credibility.

The Global Elite’s shift in strategy

So what do I think is happening? As usual, I’ll get straight to the point.

I believe that we have seen a shift in strategy by the global elite. At one time people like John D. Rockefeller actually believed that there was some good in supporting the masses. Basically he believed that the masses could be trained to be civilized. In these matters he was advised by an American Baptist clergyman named Frederick T. Gates who was in charge of Rockefeller’s philanthropic endeavors.

But sometime in the 20th century, this strategy was abandoned. The new model is one of a very small elite class separated by a huge gulf from the unfortunate masses.

Sure they still talk about “democracy”, but more and more the emphasis is shifting to “capitalism”. This justifies that those who can’t fight their way to the top deserve whatever they get. Never mind that some people aren’t interested in crushing those below them in order to rise to the top.

China and the New World Order

I associate the New World Order with David Rockefeller. There is a famous quote of Rockefeller’s after he visited China in 1973. He wrote this in an article titled “From a China Traveler”, which appeared in the New York Time on August 10, 1973.

“The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao’s leadership is one of the most important and successful in history.”

That was the same year that he created the Trilateral Commission. Perhaps that was when the new vision was born.

You see in the good ol’ days, grandpa Rockefeller was able to use his huge wealth and power to do whatever he pleased in the United States. He was able to shape public policy and to undertake huge construction projects. Just look at Manhattan. That is largely the creation of one man – John D. Rockefeller.

But with the political reform of the 60s the ability of the super-rich to totally impose their will came to an end.  So what was the point in being super-rich if you couldn’t be the master of the universe?

But in China, there was a sort of “greenfield”. Here was a place where power was still concentrated and could be used arbitrarily to change society. Here the globalist architects could construct their New World Order. And once the model was well established they could export it around the world.

我们认为好的,他们认为很糟糕。1970s对我们来说很糟糕。文革10年是他们的实验!

军人的政变改变了他们的计划。

世界没有救世主。他们都是为自己。没有人为中国的人民。

习大大的那句话:“我将无我”。我估计没人看懂了。他也许才真正是想为国入做一些好事。

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2019-05-12 15:32:42

 
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领导人的功过在当下都很难判断,要用时间来考验。

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2019-05-12 15:36:00

 
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他们都只为自己。很少的人会为大家考虑。为大家考虑的时候一般是需要大家帮忙的时候。给大家一点真相。让大家帮他搞垮更坏的人。

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2019-05-12 15:56:03

 
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独行仙人说:

他们都只为自己。很少的人会为大家考虑。为大家考虑的时候一般是需要大家帮忙的时候。给大家一点真相。让大家帮他搞垮更坏的人。


各种力量的互相斗争制衡,人类江湖社会大都如此。

江湖的概念是没错的,即便美国这样的法治社会也是如此。

一个人做了好事,大家会记得;做了坏事,大家也会记得。

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2019-05-12 16:01:35

 
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SwissArmy说:

独行仙人说:

他们都只为自己。很少的人会为大家考虑。为大家考虑的时候一般是需要大家帮忙的时候。给大家一点真相。让大家帮他搞垮更坏的人。


各种力量的互相斗争制衡,人类江湖社会大都如此。

江湖的概念是没错的,即便美国这样的法治社会也是如此。

一个人做了好事,大家会记得;做了坏事,大家也会记得。


错了。

根本不会有人记得的。他们控制信息。人民什么都不会知道。知道的人死去了。他们知道的真相也会随着他们埋进了坟墓。书上的历史只会全是骗人的,这就是人类的真正历史的全部真相。

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2019-05-12 19:05:49

 
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独行仙人说:

SwissArmy说:

独行仙人说:

他们都只为自己。很少的人会为大家考虑。为大家考虑的时候一般是需要大家帮忙的时候。给大家一点真相。让大家帮他搞垮更坏的人。


各种力量的互相斗争制衡,人类江湖社会大都如此。

江湖的概念是没错的,即便美国这样的法治社会也是如此。

一个人做了好事,大家会记得;做了坏事,大家也会记得。


错了。

根本不会有人记得的。他们控制信息。人民什么都不会知道。知道的人死去了。他们知道的真相也会随着他们埋进了坟墓。书上的历史只会全是骗人的,这就是人类的真正历史的全部真相。


不用担心,宇宙就是一个巨大的信息中心,所有历史都储存在里面永不丢失。只要时候到就会唤起我们的所有记忆无论DS怎么企图欺骗隐瞒。好多人在催眠中就找回很多前世的记忆,包括在别的星球轮回的历史。

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2019-05-12 19:21:24

 
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我还是更认同VioletSky的观点。

万事发生过必留下痕迹,人算不如天算,大的真相线索是网状,不是改变或抹去其中几个环节就可以掩盖全部的。

这么多的暗黑势力要掩盖的真相,不也让仙人同志挖掘出来了么?而且这世上肯定不只仙人同志一个人干这个事情吧?

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2019-05-12 19:34:10

 
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SwissArmy说:

pumpkin001说:

邓的改革开放至少扭转了中国的方向,不然,我们现在可能还和朝鲜一样。


赞同,CIA和Bush就是要让中国保持贫穷落后无知的北韩状态吧。


我个人认为,他们不管怎么做,目的是把全世界所有的国家纳入一个系统,就是世界同一政府这样的体系。至于具体每个国家的状况是好还是坏,他们并不关心。好坏也有短期中期以及长期的度量。比如Amish ,他们孤立自己,不使用任何现代科技,这种状况是好还是坏?有的认为好,有的人可能认为不好。所以这些事情很难讲。

同一政府,最后就是敌基督独裁,统治全世界,因为他就是要人类崇拜他,而不是上帝。当然,最终他不能得逞,不过过程会极其残酷。

 

 

 

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2019-05-12 19:35:43

 
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世界其实一直都是这样。过去是这样,现在是这样,将来也永远会是这样。

这就是我们的这个世界。我们在这些世界里轮回。哈哈。我们当过好人,也做过坏人。

他们是我们。我们是他们。你慢慢想就能明白这个道理。

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