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什么时间中国的人大代表能像美国议员这样公开地、毫无顾虑地行使选民赋予他/她的权利和责任，真正做国家的主人？

(2023-02-10 22:09:35) 下一个

关键在于公开，关键还在于她真的知道自己是人民的代表，是真正的议员，也就是真正的最高权力机关。无论是私人公司，还是政府，还是FBI都必须听他们的质询和问责。他们才是国家的主人。

我是很感动的。

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Lauren Opal Boebert (B): Member of the U.S. House of Representatives

from Colorado's 3rd district

Yoel Roth Former Head of Trust & Safety at @Twitter

Chairman: Five minutes

Lauren Opal Boebert (B): Thank you Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Matt, Taibi, a respected reporter who published much of the Twitter files said, "Twitter's contact with the FBI was constant and pervasive, as if it were a subsidiary." Now I want to better understand why he would suggest that. Mr. Roth, while at Twitter, how many meetings did you have with the FBI?

ROTH: I couldn't say for sure, but

LOB: more than 10?

ROTH: That's the reason.

LOB: More than 20?

ROTH: I couldn't say for sure

LOB: more than 50?

ROTH: That seems a bit high.

LOB: Many meetings with the FBI ! Well, we know… how many FBI agents worked at Twitter while you were there?

ROTH: I don't believe any active FBI or …

LOB: former FBI agents, how many worked there while you were there?

ROTH: I'm aware of, perhaps two.

LOB: Well, we know of at least nine… because they started the B.U. group chat, BU for Bureau. Now, Mr. Roth, did the FBI ever ask you to share information like user's communication data without going through proper legal channels?

ROTH: No, they did not, and I would have refused if they had.

LOB: That's correct. I see that you denied Agent Chan's request for access to Twitter's data feed. What's sick isn't that you would deny it, it's that the FBI would even ask you for the private data of American citizens without going through legal channels of the law.

Now, I want to remind you, Mr. Roth, that you are under oath. Did the FBI ever ask you to do anything that was illegal or questionably legal?

ROTH: I'm not a lawyer, but certainly not to the best of my recollection or knowledge.

LOB: Now, from the hearing that I've been a part of today, it's almost impossible to tell where the FBI ends and where Twitter begins. We have Mr. Baker here, a former FBI agent, and there seems to be a revolving door between the FBI and Twitter itself. Even Mr. Baker said that there was no collusion with the federal government and Twitter, but Mr. Baker, that's you. You are the collusion between the federal government and the FBI. And now with this, this is such a problem because we're seeing censorship all over. Mr. Roth, Miss Gaddy, did either of you approve the shadow banning of my account at Lauren Bobert?

Yes or no.

ROTH: No, I did not.

GADDY: no, To the best of my recollection.

Well, let me refresh your memory because on March 12, 2021, and Mr. Roth, I know you looked at it because fascist Twitter 1.0 had a public interest exceptions policy, which means for members of Congress to be shadow banned, it had to go before you, Mr. Roth. So I'll ask again, did you shadow ban my account, yes or no?

ROTH: Again, not to the best of my recollection.

LOB: So the answer is, Mr. Roth, yes, you did. I found out last night from Twitter staff that you suppressed my account for this tweet. It's a freaking joke about Hillary Clinton being angry that she couldn't rig her election. It's a joke, but in response, being the sinister overlords that you all are, you placed a 90-day account filter so I could not be found. And now we see here that Twitter staff said the visibility filter on my account excluded me from top searches, prevented notifications for non-followers, and much more. This is considered an aggressive visibility filter. You silenced members of Congress from communicating with their constituents. You could have silenced me from communicating with the American people over a freaking joke. Now, who the hell do you think that you are?

Election interference. Yeah, I would say that that was taking place because of you four sitting here, the Hunter Biden laptop story was suppressed, a sitting member of Congress was suppressed, a sitting president was banned from Twitter. You know, I bet that Putin is sitting in the Kremlin wishing he had as much election interference as you four here today. We've heard about threats to democracy, well what about shutting down a duly elected member of Congress? This is fundamental to our nation's governance and you all attacked that very foundation.

230 protections? Well, those are for Publishers, not for editors, and it's clear you are not acting as Publishers, you were acting as editors. And Mr. Chairman, I think it's far past time that we remove 230 protections for big tech platforms who are abusing this protection.

Let me just say, I'm not angry for myself. I'm not angry because I was silenced. I can reach out to Elon and to his staff, and I can see what's happened, and I can sit here today and hold you all in account. I am angry for the millions of Americans who were silenced because of your decisions, because of your actions, because of your collusion with the federal government. They can't reach out to Elon, they can't sit here today and hold you into account. We don't know where the FBI ends and Twitter begins. Free speech and even Twitter, Mr. Chairman. I yield

Chairman: the lady yields. Went over 24 seconds, I'll give Miss Porter 24 extra seconds."

Lauren Opal Boebert (B)：美国众议院议员，来自科罗拉多州第三区

Yoel Roth 前@Twitter 信任与安全主管

主席：五分钟

Lauren Opal Boebert（B）：谢谢主席先生。

发布了大部分 Twitter 文件的受人尊敬的记者 Matt, Taibi 说，“Twitter 与 FBI 的联系持续不断，无处不在，就好像它是一个子公司一样。”现在我想更好地理解他为什么会这样建议。罗斯先生，在 Twitter 期间，您与 FBI 会面了多少次？

罗斯：我不能肯定地说，但是

LOB：超过10个？

罗斯：因为这个…

LOB：超过 20 个？

罗斯：我不能肯定地说

LOB：超过50个？

罗斯：这似乎有点高。

LOB：与联邦调查局有许多会议！好吧，我们知道……当你在 Twitter 时，有多少 FBI 特工在 Twitter 工作？

罗斯：我不相信任何活跃的联邦调查局或……

LOB：前联邦调查局特工，你在的时候有多少人在那里工作？

罗斯：我知道，也许有两个。

LOB：嗯，我们知道至少有九个……因为他们开始了 B.U.群聊，BU就是局。现在，Roth 先生，FBI 是否曾要求您在不通过正当合法渠道的情况下共享用户通信数据等信息？

罗斯：不，他们没有，如果他们有，我会拒绝。

LOB：没错。我看到你拒绝了特工 Chan 访问 Twitter 数据源的请求。病态的不是你不肯，而是FBI都不通过法律的合法渠道向你索要美国公民的私人数据。

现在，罗斯先生，我想提醒您，您是宣誓了的。 FBI 有没有要求你做任何非法或合法的事情？

罗斯：我不是律师，但据我的记忆或所知肯定不是。

LOB：现在，从我今天参加的听证会来看，几乎不可能分辨出 FBI 的终点和 Twitter 的起点。我们这里有 Baker 先生，他是前 FBI 特工，FBI 和 Twitter 本身之间似乎有一扇旋转门。连贝克先生都说联邦政府和推特没有勾结，但是贝克先生，就是你。你是联邦政府和联邦调查局的勾结。现在有了这个，这就是一个问题，因为我们看到到处都是审查制度。 Roth 先生，Gaddy 小姐，你们中的任何一个人是否同意对我在 Lauren Bobert 的账户进行影子禁令？

是，还是不是。

罗斯：不，我没有。

加迪：没有，据我所知。

好吧，让我重温一下你的记忆，因为在 2021 年 3 月 12 日，罗斯先生，我知道你看过它，因为法西斯推特 1.0 有一项公共利益例外政策，这意味着国会议员要被影子禁止，它必须走在你前面，罗斯先生。所以我再问一遍，你有没有影子禁止我的帐户，是或否？

罗斯：再一次，根据我的记忆，这不是最好的。

LOB：罗斯先生，答案是，是的，您做到了。昨晚我从 Twitter 工作人员那里得知，你们禁止我发布这条推文的帐户。希拉里·克林顿 (Hillary Clinton) 因无法操纵选举而生气，这是一个荒谬的笑话。这是一个玩笑，但作为回应，你们都是阴险的霸主，你们设置了一个 90 天的帐户过滤器，这样我就找不到了。现在我们在这里看到 Twitter 工作人员说我帐户上的可见性过滤器将我排除在热门搜索之外，阻止了非关注者的通知等等。这被认为是一种激进的可见性过滤器。你们迫使国会议员与他们的选民被沉默。你本可以让我被禁声，不让我因为一个该死的笑话而与美国人民交流。现在，你到底以为你是谁？

选举干涉？！是的，我会说这是因为你们四个坐在这里而发生的，亨特·拜登笔记本电脑的故事被压制了，一位现任国会议员被压制了，一位现任总统被禁止使用推特。你知道，我敢打赌，坐在克里姆林宫的普京希望他能像今天在座的你们四个人一样受到选举干预。

我们都听说过对民主的威胁，是的，那么压制一个合法选举出来的国会议员到底算是什么！？这是我们国家治理的基础，你们都攻击了这个基础。

230条款保护？好吧，那些是给出版商的，不是给编辑的，很明显你不是作为出版商，你是作为编辑。主席先生，我认为我们为滥用这种保护的大型科技平台取消 230 项保护的时间已经过去了。

我只想说，我不是为自己生气。我不生气，因为我被压制噤声了。我可以联系 Elon 和他的员工，我可以看到发生了什么，我今天可以坐在这里向你们所有人汇报。我为数百万因你们的决定、你们的行动、你们与联邦政府的勾结而被噤声的美国人感到愤怒。他们无法联系 Elon，他们今天不能坐在这里让你们负责。我们不知道 FBI 在哪里结束，而 Twitter 又在哪里开始。言论自由甚至推特。主席先生，我结束。

主席：女士结束了。超过 24 秒，我给波特小姐额外 24 秒。”